Hey,
i‘m currently using infuse on tvOS to stream my jellyfin content. The pictures for the latest added media in the top row are currently picked from the background image, which is also shown on the details page. In most of the cases it would look much better if the thumbnail would be used, which is also provided by jellyfin. Because in most cases it has the movie logo on it etc.
Would be nice to choose whic lh picture infuse is unsing for this.
Here a picture to see the difference (thumbnail vs background):
Infuse uses TMDB’s “no language” fanart image in both cases. Ideally, Infuse would instead pull the fanart image associated with the users’ primary language for the top-row horizontal aspect thumbnail image instead — which usually contains the movie title in text or logo format — or simply use the default vertical poster images … but for now, Firecore has decided not to; and also not to allow users to set their own preference.
There is certainly already a thread requesting this change be implemented … probably @NC_Bullseye will soon move this request to that thread and remind you to hit ‘like’ on the first post in that thread to register your support.
One other thing, if you go to settings in Infuse and under “General” and set “Show Logos” to “On” you should see the movie logo on the backdrop. (verified on the “Triangle Of Sadness” movie)
You make a good point, which serves to highlight why exclusively utilizing fanart images to represent content in the “Up Next” row is an odd choice; as users who aren’t familiar with the images served up might have no idea what movies or programs the images are meant to represent.
Here’s one of the previous threads requesting this issue be addressed.
Actually two different concepts. The first is requesting that the landscape backdrop be changed to use the portrait movie poster.
The second is looking to add a new class of artwork.
To me the simplest and maybe easiest way to address this is to add the logo to the up next/watching list at the top of the home page. Then both places have the name of the show as well as complying with the language prefs as long as there’s a logo in the correct language.
Just my two cents and sorry to the OP for the derail.
Just a suggestion to accomplish this using the current version of Infuse to get through until things change, if you want the name with the backdrop in the up next/watching list you can override the fanart following directions here.
No offense, but that’s kind of a terrible solution since that overrides fanart everywhere — including where it is used nearly full-screen on movie and TV series’ details pages — and having images with text backgrounding Infuse’s UI text (titles, video specs, audio specs, plot summaries, ratings, codec logos) is definitely not something anyone would desire.
That also would require someone to load custom art for every title they might ever want to watch (so, basically everything in their collection) … just so the Up Next list has identifiable thumb nails. Not exactly user friendly.
I use Emby and noticed the same thing… the “Thumb” image is what Emby (and apparently Jellyfish) use for this type of thing. I’m don’t think it’s a concept in TMDB/TVDB as a separate category, but here’s an example on FanArt.tv.
Yeah, that would be the biggest problem — TMDB does not provide the image type.
Infuse would need to use the background fanart with logo (or the language specific background fanart which includes the logos burned in) — but those images would all need to be scaled down from as much as 4K resolution. Maybe it could be done on demand as titles appear in that part of the UI without much of a resource hit, but I image Firecore would be loath to do anything that slowed down the responsiveness.
Hopefully more attention is put on this, the current implementation of using a detailed backdrop as a thumbnail image doesn’t look right when used as a thumbnail on the home screen.
Ideally Infuse would just pull the existing thumb images that Jellyfin already has (same method it uses to pull posters, logos, backdrops, metadata), and if certain media doesn’t have a thumb image, just go back to current implementation of using the backdrop in that edge case.
I want to bring up another point, I personally choose backdrops which intentionally have the main focus be on the right side of the screen so art isn’t under the details. This can look bad when used as a thumbnail.
This really needs more attention. Backdrops are backdrops and thumbnails are thumbnails. I get they want to only use artwork without language, but why can’t that just apply to Infuse’s built-in scraping system? Let jellyfin, emby, and plex users utilize their actual thumbnail/landscape files like each respective platform does.
They just serve too different a purpose for interchangeability to look good. Like saha mentioned, many backdrops are designed (and encouraged by Infuse’s layout) to concentrate to the right of the screen and fade out to the left in some way. These images objectively look bad as thumbnails.
