Skip forward/back 10s with non-siri remote

Hi, I was trying out Infuse and was pretty impressed with it right up until I attempted to pause and skip forward 10s (like apple’s default player and VLC do) by hitting the right arrow on my non-siri remote - it began fast forwarding instead of skipping. Googling turned up only some posts about the chapter control setting, which did not affect this.

Is there some secret way to get skipping forward/back 10s to work on a non-siri remote?

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Welcome to the forum!

This isn’t supported right now, but it sounds like a great addition. We’ll look into it and see if we can get it added.

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Glad to hear it! This will also benefit Logitech Harmony remote users since you can map the left and right arrows there.

Hey guys, you absolutely CAN use the skip forward/back buttons on a non-Siri remote in this manner. I have a Logitech Harmony and do exactly that. It requires a little trickery though. What you first have to do is add a new “dummy” device to your list of devices in the Harmony configuration. You’ll want to use a DVD or Blu-Ray player of a make/model that is NOT in your household so it has unique IR codes not in use otherwise. DVD/BD remotes may be most intuitive since they have the buttons in common with what we want to do here.

In my case, I randomly chose a Sony Blu-ray player when adding a new device in the MyHarmony software, then named it “Sony Remote Codes”. Afterwards, I went to the “Buttons” menu (left side of the MyHarmony app); selected “Watch Apple TV” on the drop-down menu for the Remote Buttons; and assigned “ChapterNext” from my “Sony Remote Codes” device to the SkipForward button and “ChapterPrev” to the SkipBackward button. Once this is done, update your remote so the new device and button layout is set on your Harmony.

Next, what you have to do is go into the Apple TV’s Settings app; select “Remotes and Devices”; then “Learn Remote”. Once you select “Start” and are in learning mode, switch to the “fake” remote via the Harmony remote’s “Devices” menu and train the ATV on those codes. There are 2 phases to this. It will first just learn the basic commands, but you can then have it learn the remaining ones, which includes the “skip” buttons. Be sure you are training it to use the buttons you mapped to the skip buttons in the ATV activity when it gets to that point. Sometimes simply holding a button down to “train” the ATV won’t work, so just tap the button quickly and repeatedly until it takes.

Once done, you are DONE! The skip buttons will work exactly as desired. I have my channel up/down buttons mapped to the Apple TV remote’s SkipForward/Backward commands to use as chapter forward/backward. I can page quickly through the embedded chapters with the “channel” buttons, or use the skip buttons courtesy of the Sony remote commands to skip 10 seconds at a time. Works PERFECTLY!

While you’re at it - would it be possible to add smart skipping? E.g. skip a larger interval if you press the button more than once, not linearly but an increasingly larger interval. Would make it much more easy to skip to a wanted location with a Harmony remote. Right now, you’d have to either use the horrible fast-forward or skip a multitude of 10s skips.

@james is there any update on implementing this suggestion?

In tvOS 14.3, Apple changed the behaviour of the default player so you no longer need to hit pause now. A quick press on D-pad right or left during playback now performs a 10 second skip forward or back. A long press on these buttons operates the normal seek mode.

This change means that Harmony remote owners can at last perform a skip without needing to resort to the workaround that @OMGzilla posted, when using the built-in player.

It would be great if Infuse could match this default behaviour for consistency and convenience.

Any news on this @james ?

It would be great it Infuse could match the standard right/left skip behaviour of the default tvOS player. It catches me out every time I use Infuse now.

I also would like to see this changed so it’s consistent with the OS. No other app I know of behaves this way. Unless I’m missing something, it doesn’t seem like skipping forward and back with a non-Siri remote is possible.

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Right now in infuse, if you pause playback on the Apple TV and then click left or right it starts to rewind or fast forward.

Normal behavior for ATV though in apps is to skip back or forward 10 seconds on each press.

I wish Infuse would behave the same and skip. You would do rewind and fast forward if you click left or right while playback is active.

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Yes please!

This would be great. The rewind/fast-forward action is not very intuitive. I still don’t fully understand how it works, which ultimately has lead me to just try to prevent ever pressing on the sides of the remote. I always just pause and then scroll the time bar left or right; this is the only way to ensure accuracy in Infuse.

It’s over 3 months since this became the default behaviour in tvOS.
We’ve had 8 Infuse updates in that time but this simple and fundamental control issue has not been fixed. :cry: