When watching HDR videos it looks like there’s a dark haze or fog over the image in dark scenes.
What device?
What device OS?
What Infuse version number?
What are the match rate and range settings?
Have you run one of the videos that you’re having problems with through MediaInfo? You can post the output here and that may help.
Sure.
MacBook Pro
macOS 13.3
Infuse version 7.4.10
General
Unique ID : 310572453790699205689747507954945605878 (0xE9A614308B6F736C2C43DF84DE93C0F6)
Complete name : /Users/alexbarazani/Downloads/The.Last.Of.Us.S01E05.SPANiSH.2160p.HMAX.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.HDR.HEVC-dem3nt3/the.last.of.us.s01e05.2160p.hmax-dem3nt3.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 7.79 GiB
Duration : 59 min 4 s
Overall bit rate : 18.9 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2023-02-11 02:13:36
Writing application : mkvmerge v55.0.0 (‘Waiting For Space’) 32-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4
Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5@Main
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 59 min 4 s
Bit rate : 17.7 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.089
Stream size : 7.31 GiB (94%)
Writing library : x265 3.4hy:[Linux][GCC 7.5.0][64 bit] 10bit
Encoding settings : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=1 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x2160 / interlace=0 / total-frames=0 / level-idc=0 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / no-aud / no-hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / no-open-gop / min-keyint=96 / keyint=96 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=3 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=25 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / hist-scenecut=0 / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / limit-modes / me=3 / subme=3 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=0:0 / sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / selective-sao=4 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=abr / bitrate=18000 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=2 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv-maxrate=24500 / vbv-bufsize=24500 / vbv-init=0.6 / vbv-end=0.6 / vbv-end-fr-adj=0.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=2 / aq-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=0 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=0 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(8500,39850)B(6550,2300)R(35400,14600)WP(15635,16450)L(10000000,1) / cll=493,137 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / no-concatenation / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / hist-threshold=0.01 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr10 / no-hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 / analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / no-scenecut-aware-qpconformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0 / decoder-max-rate=0
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 493 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 137 cd/m2
Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 59 min 4 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 162 MiB (2%)
Title : Spanish
Language : Spanish
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : E-AC-3 JOC
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3 with Joint Object Coding
Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID : A_EAC3
Duration : 59 min 4 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 324 MiB (4%)
Title : English
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : No
Forced : No
Complexity index : 16
Number of dynamic objects : 15
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE
Text #1
ID : 4
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 54 min 49 s
Bit rate : 3 b/s
Frame rate : 0.020 FPS
Count of elements : 67
Stream size : 1.28 KiB (0%)
Title : Spanish [Forced]
Language : Spanish
Default : No
Forced : Yes
Text #2
ID : 5
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 57 min 38 s
Bit rate : 31 b/s
Frame rate : 0.166 FPS
Count of elements : 575
Stream size : 13.4 KiB (0%)
Title : Spanish [Full]
Language : Spanish
Default : No
Forced : No
Text #3
ID : 6
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 57 min 54 s
Bit rate : 43 b/s
Frame rate : 0.227 FPS
Count of elements : 790
Stream size : 18.4 KiB (0%)
Title : Spanish [SDH]
Language : Spanish
Default : No
Forced : No
Text #4
ID : 7
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 56 min 3 s
Bit rate : 32 b/s
Frame rate : 0.156 FPS
Count of elements : 524
Stream size : 13.2 KiB (0%)
Title : English [Full]
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Text #5
ID : 8
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 58 min 52 s
Bit rate : 39 b/s
Frame rate : 0.202 FPS
Count of elements : 712
Stream size : 17.0 KiB (0%)
Title : English [SDH]
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Menu
00:00:15.240 : en:Intro
You can try adjusting the HDR Colors option found in Settings > Playback to see if this gets things closer to your liking.
That didn’t really seem to work. Something I noticed is that on the MacBook display it seems fine but on my external display it gets that hazy caste. Here’s an example. The first is from my MacBooks display and the second is from my external monitor.
How are you connected to your external display?
A display port cable
Do you know by chance what specification of Display Port? I think some of the older versions couldn’t handle HDR very well.
Sure its version 1.4
I know nothing of these things but I googled this:
What about DisplayPort 1.4a?
DisplayPort 1.4a was ratified in April 2018 and is a minor alteration of the DisplayPort 1.4 standard that did nothing to improve its bandwidth or feature support for video or audio streams. The only change is the implementation of DSC 1.2a, which improves upon DSC 1.1 and 1.2 with better support for HDR in the compression algorithm and improves color support.
I do know they’re a bunch of different flavors of HDR and DV and all monitors don’t work with all flavors or specific encodings of such flavors. My PC monitor doesn’t support any HDR, for example, and therefore any of the HDR / DV content I play on it looks either washed out (as you describe) or bizarrely hued towards greens and purples unless I use playback software decoders that properly strip high dynamic range (metadata?) from the video streams.
Infuse plays these files just fine, though, both in their full glory on my HDR and DV enabled TV, and in a normal, unspectacular way on my older not-HDR compliant TV.
I’m not sure if it’s 1.4a. I’m using an alienware aw3423dw which does support HDR. Watching HDR on Netflix with Safari or MP4 files on QuickTime works great, but not with Infuse for some reason. I’ve tried DV and HDR10 files but neither seem to play well with Infuse.
After reading a bit, the VESA DisplayHDR TrueBlack 400 standard isn’t like the HDR on the new TVs.
This is a quote from an article discussing the VESA standards.
In comparison to a regular non-HDR monitor, an HDR400-certified monitor only has a higher peak brightness and the ability to accept the HDR signal. So, the HDR picture won’t have improved colors or contrast, just a higher peak luminance, which in most cases results in just a washed-out image.
It sounds like it may be the reason you’re seeing a washed out hazy pic vs what you’d see on a full HDR display.
I’m by no means an expert and I didn’t stay in a Holiday Inn recently so it may be totally off point but it may be an indicator.
Also this monitor says it a 1.4, not 1.4a DP so that too may play into things.
^ Same.
Something I’m not seeing on that page are any HDR 10 or Dolby Vision logos … which has got to be a bummer considering the cost of the thing.
That’s interesting for sure. It is odd though because HDR from Netflix via Safari or an MP4 file played with QuickTime looks amazing. I’m not an expert at all so I can’t explain the discrepancy, but the same file played on Infuse looks noticeably worse. I guess it’s a mystery for now.
Do you see any difference between safari or QuickTime and infuse just on your MacBook display? Or are they 100% identical?
They’re the same on both screens. Also, as an update, I recently found Optimus player and it plays HDR amazingly well. Unfortunately It’s too bare-bones for me to use as a replacement though. I hope Infuse will do whatever it is Optimus is doing because they’re doing it right. I really hope to someday get a media player as feature-rich as Infuse with the HDR capabilities of Optimus.