Dolby Vision Profile 7 & 8 support (.ts/.mkv files)

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 3 h 48 min
Bit rate : 68.0 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.342
Stream size : 108 GiB (96%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 602 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 184 cd/m2

This appears to be profile 7, which is similar to the examples from earlier in this thread.

This type of DV is not supported on the Apple TV, and these will play in HDR10.

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Ah ic… OK then thanks for clarifying, hoping for future support then!

Hello,

Isn’t AppleTV able to play Profile 8 too, as someone said in another thread ? Or maybe it’s different with .TS files ?
For example would the aTV be able to play this rlz WITH DoVI ?

The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers (2002) Extended (2160p UHD BluRay x265 DV HDR DDP 7 1 English - Weasley HONE)
Video Format    : HEVC / Main 10@L5.1@Main               
HDR Format      : Dolby Vision / MEL / Profile 8.1 / BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086 / HDR10 compatible
This is an x265-encoded Dolby Vision Profile 8.1 MEL as a Cropped MKV release with complete HDR10 fallback and a single merged video stream created with MakeMKV

Sorry if I’m a bit off topic.
I’m loving my AppleTV4k and we’re full Apple ecosystem at home. But I’d like to know if I need to invest in a ShieldPro to get DoVi on my LGCX.
Each time I’m about to download a video (and often it’s a huge file of course), I wonder if it will play the DoVi. And the nfo is not of much help, most of the time, because of this complicated story of Profiles layers.
It’d be nice if someone could sum up the situation regarding the profiles, the containers (mp4, mkv), and the TS files.

Thank you

AppleTV website says profile 5 only. Others have said profile 8 is used for videos recorded with the iPhone 12. Not sure if profile 8.1 is over and above that.

As for Dolby vision support for infuse I always go by the rule “if it came from a bluray it probably won’t work. If it came from a streaming service it probably will”.

Although unrelated to the topic, there is a way to “process” to single layer DV. Here’s a link to a single layer DV dvhe.05.06 in mp4 container that plays in InfusePro->ATV4K (without audio bcoz of this )

I processed that file from my UHD DV rip using tools and methods well documented in makemkv forum. (can’t post link in case cross forum posting is disallowed)

InfusePro detects correctly as DV and ATV as well my LG OLED65E7. LG picture mode setting defaults to DV. Quality compared with other DV P5 may be open to interpretation …

Hello!!! Finally, mkv can be played with Dolby Vision on our Apple TV! And for now, it is only possible through Plex.

Infuse is based on the Plex system, so I think we are very close to being able to see mkv on Infuse with Dolby Vision !!

Hopefully they will soon release the new Apple TV and we can play lossless audio, Atmos and DTS-HD, but in the meantime it would be amazing to play our double layer Dolby Vision movies on Infuse!

Infuse can play certain DV video also. It was recently added but there is a ton of hocus pocus going on with many players. Apple holds the key and it’s not easy to deal with their framework.

I think you’ll find some info in the below post that may show that what you’re seeing is not really DV.

Hello!! The new Dolby Vision files in mkv are not single layer, it is double layer, since what they have achieved is to put the two video files necessary to reproduce Dolby Vision in the same mkv file, so it is an improvement that Infuse has not yet implemented and Plex has.

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No, it really can’t.
Look at the posts between me and James in December when I also made false assumptions.

Do This.

  1. Set Apple TV to Dolby Vision output
  2. Disable Match Dynamic Range (you can keep match frame rate enabled)

Then playback and file that isn’t even HDR and watch it trigger Dolby Vision.
Plex is simply triggering Dolby Vision mode on the ATV 4K when detecting Dolby Vision in the file. It’s a hack and nothing more.
The exact same steps can be used to make DV icon trigger on playback start in Infuse, again even for non-HDR.

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Spot on. The only way a person will be able to play back the file is to go through the long conversion process of turning the dual layer into single layer. These files include the dynamic HDR metadata but any of the extra metadata that is sometimes included with Dolby vision (higher bit depth etc) is discarded.

What a lot of people don’t realize is I order for plex to properly do this the plex server would need to do this conversion on the fly and then send out as a new stream to the client.

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James, hi.

The metadata of the video file will be presented below, although it has a Dolby Vision profile 5, infuse 7.1 still plays it only in HDR :

File
Name: Война миров (2005).mkv
Size: 45.5 GB (45548028249 bytes)
Kind: Matroska Video
UTI: com.pozdeev.invisor.mkv
Location: /Users/yuriykhoma/Desktop/Война миров
Created: 23 August 2021, 18:09:17
Modified: 23 August 2021, 18:10:23

Container
Unique ID: 102603358185186580748681485646059669822 (0x4D30B02044545780CBFDBFFD399A093E)
Format: Matroska
Format version: Version 4
Duration: 1 h 56 min 33 s 56 ms
Overall bit rate: 52.1 Mb/s
Movie name: Война миров (2005)
Encoded date: UTC 2021-08-23 15:09:17
Writing application: mkvmerge v60.0.0 (‘Are We Copies?’) 64-bit
Writing library: libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4
Attachments: Война миров (2005).jpg

Video
ID: 1
Format: HEVC
Format/Info: High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile: Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID: V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration: 1 h 56 min 31 s 818 ms
Bit rate: 51.1 Mb/s
Width: 3 840 pixels
Height: 2 160 pixels
Pixel aspect ratio: 1.000
Display aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate mode: Constant
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Frame count: 167636
Color space: YUV
Chroma subsampling: 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth: 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame): 0.257
Stream size: 44.6 GB (98.0%)
Title: Война миров (2005)
Language: English
Default: Yes
Forced: No
Color range: Limited
Color primaries: BT.2020
Transfer characteristics: PQ
Matrix coefficients: BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries: Display P3
Mastering display luminance: min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level: 993 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level: 419 cd/m2

Audio
ID: 2
Format: E-AC-3 JOC
Format/Info: Enhanced AC-3 with Joint Object Coding
Commercial name: Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID: A_EAC3
Duration: 1 h 56 min 33 s 56 ms
Bit rate mode: Constant
Bit rate: 1 024 kb/s
Channel(s): 6 channels
Channel layout: L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate: 48.0 kHz
Frame rate: 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Frame count: 218533
Compression mode: Lossy
Stream size: 895 MB (2.0%)
Title: Дубляж E-AC3 (Atmos)
Language: Russian
Service kind: Complete Main
Default: Yes
Forced: No
Complexity index: 16
Number of dynamic objects: 15
Bed channel count: 1 channel
Bed channel configuration: LFE

@james is HDR10 and plus the most adopted with movies compared to Dolby as it’s hard to notice the difference anyway, does Dolby Blu-ray Discs always have hdr10 fallback?

Dolby vision blurays always have HDR10 fallback so playback is possible on non-DV displays.

I have an nvidia shield on one tv and an Apple TV on another. I had to remux my DV MP4 files to mkv because plex on the shield has some sort of issue with DV MP4 that causes them to randomly buffer. Since doing that DV playback has stopped working in infuse. Any progress on investigating the issue? Files worked previously on Apple TV as MP4 however infuse doesn’t like the MKV container.

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I’m not sure when this became supported because I can’t find any documentation on it, but as of today I’m able to play all of my Dolby vision remux files and Dolby vision tag triggers on my lg c9 using the plex app.

This is working on two different Apple TV 4ks (the original and the new one) as well as both my lg c9’s. I have both match frame rate and match range enabled on these Apple TV’s and they are set to 4K sdr so it doesn’t appear to be a bug or forcing Dolby vision.

With that said does infuse plan on adding support since it appears the Apple TV’s now supports profile 7?

What app do you play the media files with?

As far as I know, Apple TV does not support dual layer profiles, such as profile 7 and it is not up to apps like Infuse to change that, since Apple would need to add this sort of feature as part of tvOS first (maybe even make hardware changes, not sure about that though).

I’m using the Apple TV plex app.